I'm Baaaack. Almost
#32
Houmans motor was rebuilt 3 times because it broke down 3 times, I know trust me, I had a long conversation on the car with a sertain owner not Houman. Motor kept burning blue 3 times & the first time it was burning so much oil Dave had to go through oil like $hit through a goose.
#33
dave DID tell me as well, that the motor had to be rebuilt a FEW times due to burning too much oil .. but at the end, it all worked out i guess ....
sandeep .. sorry bud .. didnt mean to bust ur bubbles .. but when u told me that night that u still had ur stock crank in there .. i KNEW u couldnt have a 383 .. oh well .. lets just say that the pistons u got in there .. should be able to handle more N2O than my pistons
and for the cam ... go with a XE 230 / 236 (possibly with custom lift, after i see ur head flow sheet)
sandeep .. sorry bud .. didnt mean to bust ur bubbles .. but when u told me that night that u still had ur stock crank in there .. i KNEW u couldnt have a 383 .. oh well .. lets just say that the pistons u got in there .. should be able to handle more N2O than my pistons
and for the cam ... go with a XE 230 / 236 (possibly with custom lift, after i see ur head flow sheet)
#34
Originally posted by sideways_Into_3rd
I have yet to see a blown or stroker LT1 without fuel issues to tune .. hey .. there is no fuel coming !! let me work my magic and get it running right and a blown setup will never be tuned RIGHT with the stock PCM .. its not possible to get it dead on ... simply due to the fact that all the stock sensors max out .. and u have to tune blind ... its doable .. but u should at least have ur fuel issues resolved ...
and SBains's motor aint no stroker
running good times on the other hand has NOTHING to do with tuning the driver needs to be tuned for a good ET
I have yet to see a blown or stroker LT1 without fuel issues to tune .. hey .. there is no fuel coming !! let me work my magic and get it running right and a blown setup will never be tuned RIGHT with the stock PCM .. its not possible to get it dead on ... simply due to the fact that all the stock sensors max out .. and u have to tune blind ... its doable .. but u should at least have ur fuel issues resolved ...
and SBains's motor aint no stroker
running good times on the other hand has NOTHING to do with tuning the driver needs to be tuned for a good ET
I had no idea SBains motor was not a stroker, I assumed it from his sig all this time.
As far as tuning for a blower motor, I have yet to see it done right, and yes I am sure it has to do with fuel. I am still surprised my motor has stayed alive as log as it has. A STOCK LT1 down to the heads, cam and computer tuning, with an 8 psi blower.
I would still like to see a blown stroker get tuned right. Hell, I would like to know if a blown 355 can be tuned right.
#35
ryan .. shauns car was massively underfueled .. even a GM engineer could not tune that car at that time .. this year he should have enough fuel so tuning will be "possible" especially with the FAST ..
and as far as a 355 Vs 383 go .. there is no difference in tuning really .. just bigger cubes .. there is no REAL challange to tune a 383 Vs a 355 or 350 ...
your motor on the other hand .. it IS tuned .. by ur FMU .. and u dont need nearly as much fuel as shaun, due to lower boost / stock heads / cam stock CID .. so ur inline fuel pump siffices ..
there are 2 ways of tuning a blower ..
1) running an FMU (like you are)
2) NOT running an FMU .. and tuning by the cars sensors thru the PCM (which can not be 100% accomplished cuz the cars sensors max out on a FI application)
so u either stick with FMU (not the best way by a long shot) or get an aftermarket PCM that has a 2 or 3 bar MAP sensor
FWIW: ur car IS tuned right... im sure there is a lot of fine tuning that can be done thru the PCM if u ever come on the dyno i will squeez a few more ponies out for ya (after ur heads / cam swap .. u'll need some injectors too probably, and most definately more fuel) trust me its NOT healthy to work the stock injectors under such high fuel pressure for a long time .. they WILL lock up one of these days.. so put some 30 or 36# SVOs and a 255 walbro on ur shopping list
and as far as a 355 Vs 383 go .. there is no difference in tuning really .. just bigger cubes .. there is no REAL challange to tune a 383 Vs a 355 or 350 ...
your motor on the other hand .. it IS tuned .. by ur FMU .. and u dont need nearly as much fuel as shaun, due to lower boost / stock heads / cam stock CID .. so ur inline fuel pump siffices ..
there are 2 ways of tuning a blower ..
1) running an FMU (like you are)
2) NOT running an FMU .. and tuning by the cars sensors thru the PCM (which can not be 100% accomplished cuz the cars sensors max out on a FI application)
so u either stick with FMU (not the best way by a long shot) or get an aftermarket PCM that has a 2 or 3 bar MAP sensor
FWIW: ur car IS tuned right... im sure there is a lot of fine tuning that can be done thru the PCM if u ever come on the dyno i will squeez a few more ponies out for ya (after ur heads / cam swap .. u'll need some injectors too probably, and most definately more fuel) trust me its NOT healthy to work the stock injectors under such high fuel pressure for a long time .. they WILL lock up one of these days.. so put some 30 or 36# SVOs and a 255 walbro on ur shopping list
Last edited by sideways_Into_3rd; 03-12-2003 at 01:57 PM.
#37
Eeep!
I just talked to richmond and they quoted me approximatly $7200, carb to pan for a 400-425hp 383. Mind you, that is with all the good stuff - aluminum heads, forged pistons, etc., and capable of handling a wee bit 'o spray. But... it'll probalby take 3 months to save up the rest of the cash. I wanna drive now, damnit!
Hmm Hmm Hmm.
I just talked to richmond and they quoted me approximatly $7200, carb to pan for a 400-425hp 383. Mind you, that is with all the good stuff - aluminum heads, forged pistons, etc., and capable of handling a wee bit 'o spray. But... it'll probalby take 3 months to save up the rest of the cash. I wanna drive now, damnit!
Hmm Hmm Hmm.
#39
wow thats CHEAP
does that include a core ? (he builds YOU'RE motor ? or he builds u A motor !?)
i wonder what he'll charge to rebuild my LT1 into a forged 383 or 396.. i dont even need heads or an intake i should give him a call
does that include a core ? (he builds YOU'RE motor ? or he builds u A motor !?)
i wonder what he'll charge to rebuild my LT1 into a forged 383 or 396.. i dont even need heads or an intake i should give him a call
#43
Just stock edlebrock aluminum heads. They built several of them recently, so it's prooven combo of 'off the shelf' parts. It sounds like a better motor than GM's ZZ430
I didn't question them in detail about the engine because I don't have the cash for it right now.
Maybe I'll have to pay a visit to my bank. I should be able to get a loan for 3k....
I didn't question them in detail about the engine because I don't have the cash for it right now.
Maybe I'll have to pay a visit to my bank. I should be able to get a loan for 3k....