35mm Sway Bars
#1
35mm Sway Bars
I see everyone is opting for the 32mm 1LE Sway Bar because it's cheap... but obviously the 35mm is much better handling wise... I couldn't find a comparison in weight though from the 1LE to a solid 35mm.
I want the better all around one, financially it's going to be hurtin', but i'll just wait a little longer and make the better purchase.
Are there any disadvantages to getting the 35mm? Other then it being heavy... but how much heavier would the 35mm be then the stock 30mm?
I want the better all around one, financially it's going to be hurtin', but i'll just wait a little longer and make the better purchase.
Are there any disadvantages to getting the 35mm? Other then it being heavy... but how much heavier would the 35mm be then the stock 30mm?
#2
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Yes the 35mm is better but it is also 4-5 times as much as a 1LE. I'd recommend saving some money and getting Strano's Hollow 35mm which I think is only a few founds heavier than the 1LE. The 1LE only being like 2lbs heavier than stock. The solid I think is like 11lbs heavier or something.
-Dustin-
-Dustin-
#3
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
So at most i'm giving up 11lbs? How much more is the hollow then the solid? I'll have to PM that guy I guess.
I have been reading about leaving the rear sway bar alone... really? Don't touch it?
I have been reading about leaving the rear sway bar alone... really? Don't touch it?
#7
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Are the performance gains that much more noticable from the 35mm then the 32mm? I will be going hollow since it just seems like the better choice.
Although I don't understand how the hollow could give the same stiffness and quality as a solid... but ok
Although I don't understand how the hollow could give the same stiffness and quality as a solid... but ok
#8
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
Are the performance gains that much more noticable from the 35mm then the 32mm? I will be going hollow since it just seems like the better choice.
Although I don't understand how the hollow could give the same stiffness and quality as a solid... but ok
Although I don't understand how the hollow could give the same stiffness and quality as a solid... but ok
#9
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Is it true that 35mm Sway Bars are 40% stiffer then the 32mm and make the ride that much more stiff and uncomfortable?
This is my daily driver and I understand the ride will be uncomfortable... but I already have a 383 with a big cam and urythane mounts... would the 35mm be a stupid move?
This is my daily driver and I understand the ride will be uncomfortable... but I already have a 383 with a big cam and urythane mounts... would the 35mm be a stupid move?
#11
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
Is it true that 35mm Sway Bars are 40% stiffer then the 32mm and make the ride that much more stiff and uncomfortable?
This is my daily driver and I understand the ride will be uncomfortable... but I already have a 383 with a big cam and urythane mounts... would the 35mm be a stupid move?
This is my daily driver and I understand the ride will be uncomfortable... but I already have a 383 with a big cam and urythane mounts... would the 35mm be a stupid move?
#12
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
A number of things....
The difference in roll stiffness between a 32 and a 35 is huge. And you need not have even run a 35 to know that. Anyone changed from a 30 to a 32? Big difference right? You went up 2mm and look what happened. Going up another 3 is bigger, and more so because the rate is increased by the OD to the 4th power. So 3mm added to a "large" bar of say 32mm is bigger than 3mm added to a bar that's say 30mm to start with
The weight difference between a solid 35 and my hollow one is 14-15 pounds depending on the scale. My 35 is about 2 pounds more than a 1LE, and about 3 more than a stock Z28/Formula bar. And all the GM front bars are also hollow.
24mm rear bar is too much IMO for any handling oriented car. If it worked fine, I'd have never built my bars because there already were 35/25 bars out there for sale. What drove this first and foremost was that I felt the best handling comes form a large front and a "moderate" rear bar. While those bars exist individually, they do not from any one company.... I fixed that, and figured since I was doing things for the best handling, I'd also save the weight. Why drag an extra 20 pounds around (the difference between a solid and hollow set of larger bars). That's stupid.
And bars do not not adversely effect ride... a little bit on certain types of bumps, but Shibby is right... it's a MUCH smaller effect than are stiffer springs. Most folks never know if larger bars are on the car if then are getting in for the first time.. However, most everyone can tell if the car has springs..
The difference in roll stiffness between a 32 and a 35 is huge. And you need not have even run a 35 to know that. Anyone changed from a 30 to a 32? Big difference right? You went up 2mm and look what happened. Going up another 3 is bigger, and more so because the rate is increased by the OD to the 4th power. So 3mm added to a "large" bar of say 32mm is bigger than 3mm added to a bar that's say 30mm to start with
The weight difference between a solid 35 and my hollow one is 14-15 pounds depending on the scale. My 35 is about 2 pounds more than a 1LE, and about 3 more than a stock Z28/Formula bar. And all the GM front bars are also hollow.
24mm rear bar is too much IMO for any handling oriented car. If it worked fine, I'd have never built my bars because there already were 35/25 bars out there for sale. What drove this first and foremost was that I felt the best handling comes form a large front and a "moderate" rear bar. While those bars exist individually, they do not from any one company.... I fixed that, and figured since I was doing things for the best handling, I'd also save the weight. Why drag an extra 20 pounds around (the difference between a solid and hollow set of larger bars). That's stupid.
And bars do not not adversely effect ride... a little bit on certain types of bumps, but Shibby is right... it's a MUCH smaller effect than are stiffer springs. Most folks never know if larger bars are on the car if then are getting in for the first time.. However, most everyone can tell if the car has springs..
#15
Re: 35mm Sway Bars
Originally Posted by ChrisUlrich
But shouldn't there be a difference in stiffness going from the hollow to solid 35mm sway bars?
If you want to get technical, the inside of the bar is not what is getting flexed and twisted the most anyways.