Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes Shocks, springs, cages, brakes, sub-frame connectors, etc.

ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-05-2006, 05:56 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
speed_demon24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 3,245
ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Today when I was driving my car in the rain, at low speeds the ABS kept kicking on at low speeds when I was braking, usually around 5mph. I'm not braking even close to hard enough to lock up the wheels, so there's no chance they are locking up. When it would kick on, the car wouldn't brake as good since its releasing brake pressure. I has never done this before, and like I said there is a 0% chance I'm locking up the wheels. I tried the brakes out at 30mph and the ABS seemed to work fine, but at low speeds its acting up.
speed_demon24 is offline  
Old 09-05-2006, 05:58 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
razor02097's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 922
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

My dad's 99 blazer does the same thing... Just to help you out I replaced the rotors and pads already and cleaned the ABS ring. It didn't help. If someone can shead some light on this it would be nice.
razor02097 is offline  
Old 09-05-2006, 06:05 PM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Dave89IROC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Melvindale, MI, US
Posts: 4,677
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

you need to look at the wheel speed reading with a scan tool


if one of the wheel speed sensors is reading lower then the rest, the ABS will actuate when you apply the brakes(brake switch input is one of the requirements for actvation), as it thinks there is lock-up starting
Dave89IROC is offline  
Old 09-05-2006, 06:33 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
CamaroSS30thAnn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NY...what a bad place for a nice car
Posts: 2,315
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

clean all ur wheel speed and abs sensors,

ive read plenty of posts on here expalining the same problem , i have had this problem to , but this should help alot
CamaroSS30thAnn is offline  
Old 09-05-2006, 07:05 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
speed_demon24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 3,245
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Originally Posted by CamaroSS30thAnn
clean all ur wheel speed and abs sensors,

ive read plenty of posts on here expalining the same problem , i have had this problem to , but this should help alot
How do I clean the sensors? Just where they plug into? And are there any other sensors besides the ones on the wheel bearings?
speed_demon24 is offline  
Old 09-06-2006, 05:07 AM
  #6  
Guest
 
Guest47904's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 0
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Today when I was driving my car in the rain, at low speeds the ABS kept kicking on at low speeds when I was braking,
Was there any indication on the dash the ABS was coming on? Such as the "LOW TRAC" light?
Guest47904 is offline  
Old 09-07-2006, 12:53 PM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
speed_demon24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 3,245
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Originally Posted by speedygonzales
Was there any indication on the dash the ABS was coming on? Such as the "LOW TRAC" light?
Yep.
speed_demon24 is offline  
Old 09-08-2006, 05:46 AM
  #8  
Guest
 
Guest47904's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 0
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

The problem is entirely from the water and will be no way to compensate for it. See it on cars everytime it rains. Search for TSB's and there may be a help tip.
Guest47904 is offline  
Old 09-08-2006, 02:34 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
z28 justin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Perrysburg, OH
Posts: 427
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

I have this problem as well, only at low speeds then it'll kick on. I'm in the process of checking my wheel speed sensors right now. I have a 95 Z and the book I have says there should be 2 in the rear, but there is only 1 in the middle. Where are they plugged into in the front? And where do they all plug into on the other end?
z28 justin is offline  
Old 09-08-2006, 04:09 PM
  #10  
Administrator
 
Injuneer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1998
Location: Hell was full so they sent me to NJ
Posts: 70,738
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Originally Posted by z28 justin
I have this problem as well, only at low speeds then it'll kick on. I'm in the process of checking my wheel speed sensors right now. I have a 95 Z and the book I have says there should be 2 in the rear, but there is only 1 in the middle. Where are they plugged into in the front? And where do they all plug into on the other end?
You will only have two rear wheel speed sensors if your car has the optional traction control system. Without it, you get a single ABS sensor on the differential housing.

Shoebox has a diagram of the non-TCS ABS system on his website:

http://shbox.com/1/ABS_schematic.jpg
Injuneer is offline  
Old 09-08-2006, 04:24 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
z28 justin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Perrysburg, OH
Posts: 427
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Thanks, forgot what the website was for shoebox
z28 justin is offline  
Old 09-09-2006, 08:37 AM
  #12  
Registered User
 
Marc 85Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: MD
Posts: 2,022
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

This is a common problem among GMs SUVs, and some Fords also. They all use the same style ABS system.

Basically the ABS module is seeing a lockup condition from one or both of your front wheels. This is due to a sensor reading incorrectly from improper air gap. Corrosion builds up over time on the hub and moves the sensor further away from the reluctor ring, creating a "dropped signal" that is present at or below 5mph, and is often intermittent.

To remedy this, you will need to carefully remove both front wheel speed sensors from the hub. With a metal file and some sandpaper file the sensor mounting pad until the rust is removed. You'll want it free of all corrosion, clean and level. Try to avoid contaminating the bearing with dirt/debris. If the rust is built up pretty bad, lightly tapping it with a ball peen hammer will chip all the rust away. Reinstall the sensors.
Marc 85Z28 is offline  
Old 09-09-2006, 10:11 PM
  #13  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
speed_demon24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 3,245
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Originally Posted by speedygonzales
The problem is entirely from the water and will be no way to compensate for it. See it on cars everytime it rains. Search for TSB's and there may be a help tip.
It does it wet or dry, and just started doing it.
speed_demon24 is offline  
Old 09-09-2006, 10:13 PM
  #14  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
speed_demon24's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Ocala, Florida
Posts: 3,245
Re: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
This is a common problem among GMs SUVs, and some Fords also. They all use the same style ABS system.

Basically the ABS module is seeing a lockup condition from one or both of your front wheels. This is due to a sensor reading incorrectly from improper air gap. Corrosion builds up over time on the hub and moves the sensor further away from the reluctor ring, creating a "dropped signal" that is present at or below 5mph, and is often intermittent.

To remedy this, you will need to carefully remove both front wheel speed sensors from the hub. With a metal file and some sandpaper file the sensor mounting pad until the rust is removed. You'll want it free of all corrosion, clean and level. Try to avoid contaminating the bearing with dirt/debris. If the rust is built up pretty bad, lightly tapping it with a ball peen hammer will chip all the rust away. Reinstall the sensors.
speed_demon24 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Victor Lamb
Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes
3
08-26-2017 02:52 PM
1996LT1Z28
Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes
4
04-14-2015 07:15 PM
jj_burchiel
Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes
6
03-21-2015 12:51 AM
BandDirector Blk98ZM6
Parts For Sale
2
02-20-2015 07:42 AM
squarehead
General 1967-2002 F-Body Tech
7
01-15-2015 07:02 PM



Quick Reply: ABS is kicking on when the wheels aren't locking up



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 PM.