Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
#1
Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Hi all,
I have a 97 Z/28 Six Speed
Today the ABS INOP Light Came on, I scanned it and got " C1242 "
Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ???? What the hell does that mean ???
Please help
Thanks in Advance
I have a 97 Z/28 Six Speed
Today the ABS INOP Light Came on, I scanned it and got " C1242 "
Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ???? What the hell does that mean ???
Please help
Thanks in Advance
#2
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From the F-bod manual:
The Expansion Spring Brake (ESB) is used to hold the piston in the upmost (or home) position. An ESB is a spring that is retained in a housing at a close tolerance. One end of the spring is in contact with the motor drive dog and the other end is in contact with the pinion drive dog. In normal braking, brake pressure is present on the top of the piston, applying downward force. The force applies a counterclockwise torque to the motor pinion which tries to rotate the spring counterclockwise. The counterclockwise torque expands the spring ******d within the housing and prevents gear rotation.
When the motor is turned on and tries to drive the ball screw nut, the end of the ESB in contact with the motor drive dog rotates inward causing the spring to contact in its housing allowing the motor to rotate the modulator gear.
Geez, just when you thought you knew it all, dog.![Big Grin](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
EDIT: Why the hell is 0utw@rd censored?
The Expansion Spring Brake (ESB) is used to hold the piston in the upmost (or home) position. An ESB is a spring that is retained in a housing at a close tolerance. One end of the spring is in contact with the motor drive dog and the other end is in contact with the pinion drive dog. In normal braking, brake pressure is present on the top of the piston, applying downward force. The force applies a counterclockwise torque to the motor pinion which tries to rotate the spring counterclockwise. The counterclockwise torque expands the spring ******d within the housing and prevents gear rotation.
When the motor is turned on and tries to drive the ball screw nut, the end of the ESB in contact with the motor drive dog rotates inward causing the spring to contact in its housing allowing the motor to rotate the modulator gear.
Geez, just when you thought you knew it all, dog.
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EDIT: Why the hell is 0utw@rd censored?
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Last edited by Mikey97Z; 12-05-2004 at 10:16 AM.
#3
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Originally Posted by Mikey97Z
From the F-bod manual:
The Expansion Spring Brake (ESB) is used to hold the piston in the upmost (or home) position. An ESB is a spring that is retained in a housing at a close tolerance. One end of the spring is in contact with the motor drive dog and the other end is in contact with the pinion drive dog. In normal braking, brake pressure is present on the top of the piston, applying downward force. The force applies a counterclockwise torque to the motor pinion which tries to rotate the spring counterclockwise. The counterclockwise torque expands the spring ******d within the housing and prevents gear rotation.
When the motor is turned on and tries to drive the ball screw nut, the end of the ESB in contact with the motor drive dog rotates inward causing the spring to contact in its housing allowing the motor to rotate the modulator gear.
Geez, just when you thought you knew it all, dog.![Big Grin](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
EDIT: Why the hell is 0utw@rd censored?![Mad](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif)
The Expansion Spring Brake (ESB) is used to hold the piston in the upmost (or home) position. An ESB is a spring that is retained in a housing at a close tolerance. One end of the spring is in contact with the motor drive dog and the other end is in contact with the pinion drive dog. In normal braking, brake pressure is present on the top of the piston, applying downward force. The force applies a counterclockwise torque to the motor pinion which tries to rotate the spring counterclockwise. The counterclockwise torque expands the spring ******d within the housing and prevents gear rotation.
When the motor is turned on and tries to drive the ball screw nut, the end of the ESB in contact with the motor drive dog rotates inward causing the spring to contact in its housing allowing the motor to rotate the modulator gear.
Geez, just when you thought you knew it all, dog.
![Big Grin](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
EDIT: Why the hell is 0utw@rd censored?
![Mad](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/mad.gif)
So in terms I can understand... What is broken ???
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#4
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Originally Posted by Hyperspeed97z28
So in terms I can understand... What is broken ??? ![Smilie](https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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#5
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Does this help? I photographed a couple pages from the manual:
http://z28.reanimator.org/abs_esb.jpg (2Meg image!)
http://z28.reanimator.org/abs_esb.jpg (2Meg image!)
#8
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Originally Posted by Mikey97Z
It's inside the ABS Brake Modulator / Motor Pack Assembly.
You have to take out the ABS unit and open it up. ewww.
You have to take out the ABS unit and open it up. ewww.
Cant I just replace the whole unit ???
Is this the box on the drivers side where the CAI hits during install ??
#10
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Originally Posted by Mikey97Z
Yes, that's it. It sounds kinda expensive!
Any clue on what the Actual name of the part is ???
Last edited by Hyperspeed97z28; 12-06-2004 at 08:09 PM.
#11
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Yeah those are the real names.
The "box" with the brake lines and wires is the ABS Brake Modulator / Motor Pack Assembly. There are 3 motors inside and each motor has an ESB and one's broken.
The "box" with the brake lines and wires is the ABS Brake Modulator / Motor Pack Assembly. There are 3 motors inside and each motor has an ESB and one's broken.
#12
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
I say take it apart and find out what is wrong with it. The only part that is a pain in the *** taking it apart is having to bleed all of your brakes again.
#13
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
Originally Posted by Getsome17
I say take it apart and find out what is wrong with it. The only part that is a pain in the *** taking it apart is having to bleed all of your brakes again.
Can anyone lead me to which is the rear esb ??
Thanks
#14
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
I ordered a new motor/and abs pack. Got a used unit for $33 to my door !!!
I figure I'll just replace the whole unit !! Seems easy enough !!
Thanks for the help !!!!
I figure I'll just replace the whole unit !! Seems easy enough !!
Thanks for the help !!!!
#15
Re: Abs: Rear Esb Will Not Hold Motor ????
hate to bring up a old thread, but i was doing my LS1 brake swap and this code poped up and won't disapper no matter how many times i delete it.. it comes and goes when it's ready what did you do to fix it? and could possibly bleeding the brakes help? also the catch is that the red brake light and the trac light does not come on when this code pops up only the abs light this is something that i don't understand according to alldata and the pic of the book above it says it should but it doesnt
im lost
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Last edited by My Iroc Z28; 03-25-2005 at 10:14 PM.