C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
03-17-2005, 01:37 PM
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C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
Which costs more? Baers gt plus (13.15 inch rotor) front only, is like $900 (any1 know where its cheaper?)
But what does a C5 swap cost?
Which is better?
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But what does a C5 swap cost?
Which is better?
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03-17-2005, 02:41 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
I'd like to hear this answered also.
From what I have priced both options come in close to each other in price.
The C5 conversion has 12.8" rotors where the GTP has 13.1 or 13.4 " rotors with an option to got to 14" for extra.
I think they both have 2 pistons calipers.
The Bob Bishop braket may save some weight over the bear setup. btu they are not available anymore so G2 may be an option but probably heavier than a BB bracket.
The only thing I can think of thay favors the C5 conversion is the rotors are $50us to replace rather than 130-150 Bear rotors.
From what I have priced both options come in close to each other in price.
The C5 conversion has 12.8" rotors where the GTP has 13.1 or 13.4 " rotors with an option to got to 14" for extra.
I think they both have 2 pistons calipers.
The Bob Bishop braket may save some weight over the bear setup. btu they are not available anymore so G2 may be an option but probably heavier than a BB bracket.
The only thing I can think of thay favors the C5 conversion is the rotors are $50us to replace rather than 130-150 Bear rotors.
03-17-2005, 06:45 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
I gust got my Baer GT plug kit from Tbyrne for $720.00
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/4024/brake18ve.jpg
I am not so sure they don't use C5 calipers on the GT+ kits. I will find some pics of the C5 caliper and make sure. I know they use the C5 Pads.
I polished my calipers too.
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/2893/10016857wn.jpg
http://img240.exs.cx/img240/5597/polishedbaer2xt.jpg
Here is a pic I took just to make sure they would clear my ZR1's
http://img179.exs.cx/img179/4259/sigpic2uo.jpg
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/4024/brake18ve.jpg
I am not so sure they don't use C5 calipers on the GT+ kits. I will find some pics of the C5 caliper and make sure. I know they use the C5 Pads.
I polished my calipers too.
http://img224.exs.cx/img224/2893/10016857wn.jpg
http://img240.exs.cx/img240/5597/polishedbaer2xt.jpg
Here is a pic I took just to make sure they would clear my ZR1's
http://img179.exs.cx/img179/4259/sigpic2uo.jpg
03-17-2005, 08:34 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
What did you all get with the Baer GT kit?
Yes, the GT kit is the C5 caliper. The rotor is slightly different though. If you get two piece rotors with the GT kit for $900, that's a pretty good deal, especially if it comes with stainless lines.
My entire C5 brake conversion was $840 including two sets of pads, stainless hoses, and a bottle of ATE TYP 200 fluid. Without the extra set of pads, stainless lines and fluid, it was $725.
Dan
Yes, the GT kit is the C5 caliper. The rotor is slightly different though. If you get two piece rotors with the GT kit for $900, that's a pretty good deal, especially if it comes with stainless lines.
My entire C5 brake conversion was $840 including two sets of pads, stainless hoses, and a bottle of ATE TYP 200 fluid. Without the extra set of pads, stainless lines and fluid, it was $725.
Dan
03-17-2005, 09:40 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
Originally Posted by stereomandan
What did you all get with the Baer GT kit?
Yes, the GT kit is the C5 caliper. The rotor is slightly different though. If you get two piece rotors with the GT kit for $900, that's a pretty good deal, especially if it comes with stainless lines.
My entire C5 brake conversion was $840 including two sets of pads, stainless hoses, and a bottle of ATE TYP 200 fluid. Without the extra set of pads, stainless lines and fluid, it was $725.
Dan
Yes, the GT kit is the C5 caliper. The rotor is slightly different though. If you get two piece rotors with the GT kit for $900, that's a pretty good deal, especially if it comes with stainless lines.
My entire C5 brake conversion was $840 including two sets of pads, stainless hoses, and a bottle of ATE TYP 200 fluid. Without the extra set of pads, stainless lines and fluid, it was $725.
Dan
I got everything need to swap the fronts. 2 pice rotors, front pads, calipers,SS lines, brakets. Only thing the kit don't come with is fluid. I did get my kit on sale that is why I only paid 720.00
03-18-2005, 08:08 AM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
Originally Posted by funina91ss
I got everything need to swap the fronts. 2 pice rotors, front pads, calipers,SS lines, brakets. Only thing the kit don't come with is fluid. I did get my kit on sale that is why I only paid 720.00
Dan
03-18-2005, 04:35 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
Originally Posted by 5.0THIS
No question, C5 brakes. Even if they were the same price as the Baer brakes I'd go with them.
The kit in question is A C5 kit only diffrence is the brakets will work with the LT1 spindles/and a two pice rotor/ only down side is some guys don't want X Drilled/Slotted rotors, I did so it was an ever better deal for me. tbyrnemotorsports.com Has them onsale right now. It says to call for pricing. I got mine a month ago at 720.00
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03-18-2005, 08:44 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
Is everyone absolutely sure the Baer kits use C5 rotors?
There are at least 3Baer kits that use rotors that range in size from about 12.8 to 14"
There is a GTplus kit with 13.4" rotors. C5s have 12.8" rotors and if you get a Z5X package there rotors are 13.4".
Anyone know if the C5 (Z5X option) rotors will work with the 13.4" Bear brake kit?
If so i would buy these in a gippy.
Also,
Is the Baer conversion bracket Aluminum or steel? i would be interested in seeing the weight of it compared to Bobs bracket. Anyone that can measure this easily ( ie has brake kit in hands)?
Is the Caliper Al on all Bear brakes from the GT to the GTplus?
There are at least 3Baer kits that use rotors that range in size from about 12.8 to 14"
There is a GTplus kit with 13.4" rotors. C5s have 12.8" rotors and if you get a Z5X package there rotors are 13.4".
Anyone know if the C5 (Z5X option) rotors will work with the 13.4" Bear brake kit?
If so i would buy these in a gippy.
Also,
Is the Baer conversion bracket Aluminum or steel? i would be interested in seeing the weight of it compared to Bobs bracket. Anyone that can measure this easily ( ie has brake kit in hands)?
Is the Caliper Al on all Bear brakes from the GT to the GTplus?
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03-18-2005, 09:18 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
As far as the rotor size my GT + kit has 13.15" 2 pice rotors. but I don't see what diffrence it makes if you still using stock C5 pad the rotor can be 15" but without bigger caliper and pads it's not going to matter.
03-18-2005, 10:12 PM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
the bigger your rotor the more torque you can apply to the wheel when braking, of course this is only the case if the C5 caliper is positioned to rub on the outer last edge of the rotor diameter.
Is there anyone that can answer the slew of questions I posted inthe last response?
Is there anyone that can answer the slew of questions I posted inthe last response?
03-19-2005, 02:15 AM
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Re: C5 Vs. Baer, Which is better Value?
I dont want the stupid Baer kit because I dont want to have to pay the outlandish prices for new rotors. I can pick up new C5 rotors at napa for nothing. In my mind the performance either kit will offer is equal, so it comes down to maintenance. If I wear out a set of rotors with some extremely hard track use, it's nothing to replace them and the pads....