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Old 10-25-2011, 04:19 PM
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350350 – I found your write up on parking lots quite amusing! No shame in a redneck alignment if it is only to get you to the alignment shop.
*takes bow* City folks have no idea how blessed they are to have such an abundance of fine places to wrench! I grew up in the country, and any roadside repair was going to take place in the grass or possibly some gravel along the shoulder. Way back in the 1900's, as my kids say...

I haven't done anything else to the car yet, but preliminary homework indicates that replacing the stock bushings would cost very close to the same as the vastly superior Founders Performance (linky earlier somewhere in this thread) units, so it'll have to wait til after xmas at this point. Not sure how Santa is funding that at all, so the SS will have to remain in the slow lane, if not parked, until then... [sadviolin]
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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

Get a damn tire!
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Old 11-01-2011, 11:38 AM
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Get a damn tire!
yea i had a bad front tire (one of the bands broke in it) and it was wobbley as hell and sent me all over the road at higher speeds.. had to stiff arm that sucker to stay in one lane and it was physically impossible to get it to stay completely straight
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:53 PM
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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

anyone else think its wierd that the car wobbled all over the road with the steering wheel not shaking?
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Old 11-13-2011, 08:55 PM
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the tire isnt the problem or you would definatlly feel it in the steering wheel. do get a new tire though, just not safe.
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:00 PM
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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

If it was on the front yes... I think he said the back tire was the bad one
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Old 11-13-2011, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by carlramsour
the tire isnt the problem or you would definatlly feel it in the steering wheel. do get a new tire though, just not safe.
Yeah even though it's a rear tire, regardless, you'd think I'd be fighting the steering as badly as the car is wobbling. But there's nothing 'coming through' the wheel. Like, an out of balance wheel or other vibrations I've felt before in other various wrecks I've driven. Not the case with this issue.

I need a 'chase car' with a camera to follow me and video the car from behind when it's wobbling. Think like, have you ever had a land yacht with worn out shocks, that bobbed and weaved all over the road at high speed? Just due to worn out suspension? This is kind of like that, it's like the body itself isn't tied to the chassis properly, only it's also an increasing thing that gets out of control the faster you go.

In any case, the car is grounded until it gets tires. And, I'll have to replace one thing at a time anyway, tires first then panhard rod and then lower control arms. Just due to not being able to buy it all at once. So I'll be able to report back as I replace each thing. *sigh*
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:57 AM
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Santa may be bringing me lower control arms and a panhard rod, with tires to follow from tax return in January. Anyone have the red control arms that can comment on whether it makes any difference in the looks of the car or not? With the C6 19x10's on the rear, you can see straight under the car. Will the red LCA's show? Anybody got a pic?
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Reporting (back) in... Since I last spoke...

LCA's and Panhard Rod with poly, adjustable rod. Rear end now centered, and car showed significant improvement in straight-forward launches after installing these components. Money well spent. Founders Performance = Car still wobbly at high speed after this install.

Good set of used tires on the rear: Traded evensies for some other parts I had, so was able to get them on before tax return time. Just got home from a test drive. Smooth and stable at 110. Can't remember the last time it felt so solid. Not likely to get it anywhere I can hit 140 any time soon, but should that happen, I'll report my findings.

In summary, the car was out of alignment in the front, had a dangerously loose tie rod end, and the rear end was off center by just over 1/2". While I think all of these things were amplifying each other, I also believe the root of the wobbly high speed stuff was the bad tire. I think it had a slipped belt long before it was bald.
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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

Are you still running the stock steel driveshaft? That could be the issue, as it was for me. Besides an incorrect pinion angle (which can cause vibration) the steel driveshaft hits its critical frequency at higher speeds and can cause vibration. GM knew about this problem, and some dealers would actually switch out the steel driveshaft for aluminum if customers complained of the issue. I had this problem with my car, switched out the stocker for an aluminum driveshaft and problem solved.

Edit: https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/dri...eshaft-815684/

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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

Originally Posted by 97 Comp T/A
Are you still running the stock steel driveshaft? That could be the issue, as it was for me. Besides an incorrect pinion angle (which can cause vibration) the steel driveshaft hits its critical frequency at higher speeds and can cause vibration. GM knew about this problem, and some dealers would actually switch out the steel driveshaft for aluminum if customers complained of the issue. I had this problem with my car, switched out the stocker for an aluminum driveshaft and problem solved.

Edit: https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/dri...eshaft-815684/
Well... yes and no... this car has had the aluminum shaft as long as I've owned it. I had a 'spare' aluminum LS1 car driveshaft when I bought this car in 2004, so I just put it in. I know exactly what you mean, my '95 Z28 had that vibration. The aluminum shaft made a big difference. But I don't think in my case it's contributing to the speed stability. It was more the car wanting to handle poorly than the entire car shaking.
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Re: Gets 'wobbly' above 110 (4th Gen SS)

Just a quick update now that the car has good tires all the way around...

In summary, from beginning to end, I aligned the front end, put good tires all the way around, poly bushings in rear LCA and adjustable panhard rod (rear end was not centered) and recently it passed a 140mph run smooth as silk.

Maybe it was a combination of a couple or all of those things, but for what it's worth it seems to be good to go now.
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