Nice piece from PAF!
10-08-2007, 03:56 PM
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Nice piece from PAF!
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA3.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA4.jpg
Looks like a nice piece, I wonder what it'll cost?
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http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA4.jpg
Looks like a nice piece, I wonder what it'll cost?
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10-09-2007, 07:16 AM
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Odd, sorry guys. It worked when I posted it , I double checked. Anyway, it's prolly one of the nicest torque arms I've ever seen. Let's try this.
http://home.comcast.net/~tfranklin5580/PAF/
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10-09-2007, 02:23 PM
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When you copied the links, it replaced part of the address with all those little .............'s.
What you needed to post:
http: //home.comcast.net/~tfranklin5580/PAF/images/Suspension/TA4.jpg
What you posted:
http: //home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA4.jpg
What you needed to post:
http: //home.comcast.net/~tfranklin5580/PAF/images/Suspension/TA4.jpg
What you posted:
http: //home.comcast.net/~tfranklin55...ension/TA4.jpg
10-09-2007, 04:57 PM
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Injuneer, did you check out the link to the site?
10-09-2007, 05:43 PM
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The first two pictures are awful dark... they really need something better.
The DS loop appears to be too far back to meet the NHRA requirement that it be within 6" of the U-joint, but that's not clear because of the dark pictures.
What is the purpose of extending the rear bracket down below the bottom of the pinion housing? Appears they want to be able to move both ends of the bar up and down with multiple bolt holes. I'd like to understand their theory on what this gains.
You can tell most of the people that design stuff like this never took an engineering class. The diagonal braces should be set in opposite directions, to form triangles, not both facing in the same direction for form a parallelogram. Triangles are stronger.
The DS loop appears to be too far back to meet the NHRA requirement that it be within 6" of the U-joint, but that's not clear because of the dark pictures.
What is the purpose of extending the rear bracket down below the bottom of the pinion housing? Appears they want to be able to move both ends of the bar up and down with multiple bolt holes. I'd like to understand their theory on what this gains.
You can tell most of the people that design stuff like this never took an engineering class. The diagonal braces should be set in opposite directions, to form triangles, not both facing in the same direction for form a parallelogram. Triangles are stronger.
10-10-2007, 07:32 AM
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The first two pictures are awful dark... they really need something better.
The DS loop appears to be too far back to meet the NHRA requirement that it be within 6" of the U-joint, but that's not clear because of the dark pictures.
What is the purpose of extending the rear bracket down below the bottom of the pinion housing? Appears they want to be able to move both ends of the bar up and down with multiple bolt holes. I'd like to understand their theory on what this gains.
You can tell most of the people that design stuff like this never took an engineering class. The diagonal braces should be set in opposite directions, to form triangles, not both facing in the same direction for form a parallelogram. Triangles are stronger.
The DS loop appears to be too far back to meet the NHRA requirement that it be within 6" of the U-joint, but that's not clear because of the dark pictures.
What is the purpose of extending the rear bracket down below the bottom of the pinion housing? Appears they want to be able to move both ends of the bar up and down with multiple bolt holes. I'd like to understand their theory on what this gains.
You can tell most of the people that design stuff like this never took an engineering class. The diagonal braces should be set in opposite directions, to form triangles, not both facing in the same direction for form a parallelogram. Triangles are stronger.
Thanks for the input. I'm glad we have you around. so what you're saying is that we should prolly stick with a proven design (UMI) I'm honestly really leaning toward them anyway, good people.I noticed the adjustable hole settings on the rear too, I think the Madman t/a is like that.
10-10-2007, 10:39 PM
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I'm not saying its good or bad. I just raised some questions regarding the design. I should have also questioned the front slider. I know Spohn had troubles with his original TA design, and part of it was the front slider. He got rid of that design, and replaced it with the 'links' that allow the front of the arm to move forward and backward.
10-11-2007, 07:17 AM
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I'm not saying its good or bad. I just raised some questions regarding the design. I should have also questioned the front slider. I know Spohn had troubles with his original TA design, and part of it was the front slider. He got rid of that design, and replaced it with the 'links' that allow the front of the arm to move forward and backward.
10-12-2007, 04:07 PM
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His stuff is proven and NHRA legal, etc...has several guys in the 9s and 8s with 1.2X 60's with his TAs...He is not cheap, but his stuff works...Also makes some of the best SFCs I've ever seen...He is definitely worth checking out...
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10-12-2007, 07:26 PM
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Yeah, Tyson's (the owner) shop is only 15 min from me, I had him do my SFC installation and some exhaust work. I've reccomended Tyson to quit a few of my buddies. He does excellent work esp with exhuast and roll cages.
10-20-2007, 10:22 PM
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To add to Injuneer's comments, the TA was designed by an engineer and works very well...If you look at the Spohn TA under my car the braces are not triangles either, they are parallel, too...The PAF TA is designed for high hp applications where every last bit of adjustability is desired to help get cars down the track...Currently, he's got one under a Turbo car that should put out around 1200 rwhp...and has them on several high hp cars that have been tested for years with no problems...
I'll send this link to Tyson so he can come on here and explain his stuff better...I just didn't want folks to think that he's just some dumb kid who puts together junk...
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I'll send this link to Tyson so he can come on here and explain his stuff better...I just didn't want folks to think that he's just some dumb kid who puts together junk...
--Alan