still a bit of roll when cornering + rear wagging on corner exit accel.... upgrades?
08-22-2005, 11:44 AM
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Re: still a bit of roll when cornering + rear wagging on corner exit accel.... upgrades?
I carry the rubber bushings in stock..
As for the roll, bars are much more effective at roll control than are springs. Example: An autox car with 500 springs and a 35 bar rolls the same amount as one wtih 1000 springs and a 32mm bar.
You can do springs if you wish. But with normal Bilstein's it's asking for trouble (lack of damping) and you have make a wise choice on which springs you want for good handling, and there are a lot of poor choices out there. Further the car will ride harder and roll more than with a bar change alone.
Also, you haven't even tried the shock to see the change, which will be large. And tuning the car on what-if's is not smart. Get them in, see what you get and go from there. Don't assume......
As for the roll, bars are much more effective at roll control than are springs. Example: An autox car with 500 springs and a 35 bar rolls the same amount as one wtih 1000 springs and a 32mm bar.
You can do springs if you wish. But with normal Bilstein's it's asking for trouble (lack of damping) and you have make a wise choice on which springs you want for good handling, and there are a lot of poor choices out there. Further the car will ride harder and roll more than with a bar change alone.
Also, you haven't even tried the shock to see the change, which will be large. And tuning the car on what-if's is not smart. Get them in, see what you get and go from there. Don't assume......
08-22-2005, 01:50 PM
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Re: still a bit of roll when cornering + rear wagging on corner exit accel.... upgrad
probably right, no sense in sinking more money into springs ... just bigger front bar and get the shocks in....
edit: i was browsing stranoparts.com and noticed that the 35mm hollow bar is actually roughly the same price as a new set of springs so i guess the bar would be the better idea.... also considering higher rate springs require higher dollar shocks anyway....may as well keep stocker springs
thanks for your help guys - i'll keep the 1LE part numbers (if/when i get them) in mind just in case i decide to go a little further..
edit: i was browsing stranoparts.com and noticed that the 35mm hollow bar is actually roughly the same price as a new set of springs so i guess the bar would be the better idea.... also considering higher rate springs require higher dollar shocks anyway....may as well keep stocker springs
thanks for your help guys - i'll keep the 1LE part numbers (if/when i get them) in mind just in case i decide to go a little further..
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08-22-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: still a bit of roll when cornering + rear wagging on corner exit accel.... upgrad
the day i put on Sam's hollow 35mm front bar on a 94Z, it was real noticeable that the car turned in harder and flatter. thanks Sam!
i was running eibach pro kit w/ konis SA already. i recently went with a Ground Control front coil over kit w/ 500# springs and 1LE rear springs from my friend. Set front ride height to about 26.75" Again, found improvement over the prokit.
i was running eibach pro kit w/ konis SA already. i recently went with a Ground Control front coil over kit w/ 500# springs and 1LE rear springs from my friend. Set front ride height to about 26.75" Again, found improvement over the prokit.
08-23-2005, 08:45 AM
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Re: still a bit of roll when cornering + rear wagging on corner exit accel.... upgrad
well, i'd like the 1LE kit but i dont think $200+ justifies it.....
perhaps just the 35mm hollow bar
perhaps just the 35mm hollow bar
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