Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes Shocks, springs, cages, brakes, sub-frame connectors, etc.

Thoughts On sub Frame Connectos

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-08-2006, 11:30 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
GMCAMARO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 61
Thoughts On sub Frame Connectos

I had a set of Sub Frame connectors, the bolt in Varity. I removed them this weekend as the start of my winter modes; I did it for a couple of reasons. Most of my driving is straight, and I wanted to save the 30 or so pounds at the track. I could not tell the difference with or without them. I do have a drive strap safety loop there so that tends to tie the two sides together.

Was this a good idea?
GMCAMARO is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 11:34 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
teke184's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1998
Location: US 1 Mile Marker 52 in the Florida Keys
Posts: 8,323
not really

bolt them in, and then weld them

i noticed a considerable change in the "feel" of the car on even straight roads

most agree that SFC are a very good "first 5" mod for thes cars
teke184 is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 11:56 AM
  #3  
Registered User
 
Sam Strano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Brookville, PA
Posts: 715
I'm not one of those people, and GMCAMARO is not the first person to notice this happening.

The car is not a wet dish-rag. If you want to see improvement in ride and handling work the suspension, and those are chassis parts. While they aren't bad things, they often are no help.
Sam Strano is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 12:19 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
nodnarb481's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: King of Prussia, PA
Posts: 928
I didnt notice too much with the subframe connectors but i did notice some. I did it more for the feeling that I helped the car stay together
nodnarb481 is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 12:46 PM
  #5  
01Z
Registered User
 
01Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Pothole, Ohio
Posts: 559
I'm thinking Sam and the others are right. I have two sets of connectors I have yet to weld up listed in my sig in orange as a future mod. Both cars are pretty rigid IMHO but I have / am boosting hp with nitrous and an LS6 kit that is still on the UPS truck. Not being a road racer I don't know how much I need some of the suspension components to be upgraded. With shocks and springs I'm still thinking with my cars near and over 400 hp, the SFC aren't a bad idea but maybe ladder bars should come first. Well, maybe LCAs ....
01Z is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 12:49 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
davidz28guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: jacksonville, nc
Posts: 130
besides them helping the rigidity of the car they will keep you from getting those waves on the top of your rear quarter panel, personally id rather have an extra 30 pounds and no wrinkles on my cars body

Last edited by davidz28guy; 11-08-2006 at 12:52 PM.
davidz28guy is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 12:56 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
SOMSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 152
I felt a huge difference in the rigidity of my T-Top'd SS. JMHO.
SOMSS is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 01:13 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
Greed4Speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: FTW, TX
Posts: 4,508
Originally Posted by GMCAMARO
I do have a drive strap safety loop

Or maybe a Drive SHAFT safety loop.
Greed4Speed is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 02:11 PM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Z95m6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: newton, kansas, USA
Posts: 6,070
I felt a night and day difference when they were installed on my ttop car. The car feels much more solid and ridgid. My 69 Mach 1 when its jacked up on one corner of the car the doors don't want to shut as well and the same thing happened to my Camaro with out subframe connectors. Call my crazy but thats an unwanted amount of flex. Also with out them when i would jack up the front corner of the car the rear tire on that side would almost always stay on the ground, now the rear comes up very quickly and tilts the car to the opposite side. This is all signs that my car was flexing a lot, it may not really help the handling to add them but it sure gives me peace of mind knowing they're there.
Z95m6 is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 07:48 PM
  #10  
Registered User
 
2000GTP's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 12,312
I noticed a significant difference after having mine installed. I do have a t-tops car so that may have something to do with it. But long story short, all of the annoying creaks and rattles quickly disappeared.
2000GTP is offline  
Old 11-08-2006, 07:57 PM
  #11  
Registered User
 
1970z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: alabama
Posts: 363
Originally Posted by davidz28guy
besides them helping the rigidity of the car they will keep you from getting those waves on the top of your rear quarter panel, personally id rather have an extra 30 pounds and no wrinkles on my cars body
you can look at these cars and see if they have been on a track either drag racing or road course buy the quarter panels.
1970z28 is offline  
Old 11-09-2006, 10:57 AM
  #12  
Registered User
 
Sam Strano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Brookville, PA
Posts: 715
Jacking one corner up is not a normal thing, and given the weight of the car how could one not expect it to flex when you do that. And FWIW, it'll only flex less when you have SFC's and jack it up like that, not stop flexing at all.

If you want to add them *FINE*. I sell them, and would be happy to sell some to you too. But I prefer to sell the parts that actually effect the handling and ride most first.

And BTW, there are plenty of cars with waves that have SFC's too. To each his own, but these cars were designed as CONVERTIBLES from the get-go, and are far from flexy fliers. I add SFC's to 3rd gen's and Mustangs (not the new one) a long time before a 4th gen.
Sam Strano is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
redleader
Parts Wanted
2
11-13-2016 02:57 PM
Richardan15
Parts For Sale
2
05-30-2015 08:36 AM
4586
Fuel and Ignition
2
04-24-2015 01:03 PM
maybe2fast
LT1 Based Engine Tech
6
03-13-2015 11:48 AM
redleader
New Member Introduction
2
01-22-2015 12:05 PM



Quick Reply: Thoughts On sub Frame Connectos



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:15 PM.