pHEnomIC

I am hearing some people saying that sfcs don't really do much, that the 4th gen is already pretty rigid and that shocks, springs, and swaybars are the things that affect handling.

Btw, does the 4th gen even have subframes?

sunsetorangess

I felt the difference before i even left the parking lot after the install. Car feels more solid and handles alot better under hard acceleration.

87DJP2001

Only people that will tell you there is no difference with SFC's are the one who don't have them. Best investment you can make on a uni-body car.

slomarao

I could feel the diff when I rolled out of the spot the welder put my car in. My friend who has a drop top ta noticed when I let him drive my car. He wants them now.

Camaro_Maniac63

I had them on my first Camaro, and now I don't have them on any of my current three Camaros (all with 100K+ miles). And as far as seat of the pants go, I cannot tell a difference... As far as I am concerned, someone needs to equip their car with strain gages and show me the results for me to believe that they are THAt effective (except in convertible 4th gens, and very high-horsepower 4th gens that dead-hook at the strip). Until then, I will think that they aren't much good besides making great jacking points if you are using the 3-pt rectangular ones.

87DJP2001

Worthless opinion from a person who can't tell the difference because he has NO SFC's installed on his car.

teke184

i defineatly noticed a difference.

took a little more than pulling out of the garage to tell....but i could feel it on the road.

i live where there are alot of bridges, and as i would go over them and hit the "dips" between the sections of the bridge...i could tell the car felt different.

to me it almost made the car ride rougher since it forced the suspension to do more of the work...and with stock springs and shocks at 40K miles they were getting old.

not many curves here, so i can't help much there.

but i think they are well worth it.

Camaro_Maniac63

Didn't you read my first sentence which says "I had them installed on my first Camaro"?

I saw the light after selling that one and realizing that my new one drove just the same without them, so I decided to save my money on the two other 4th gen Camaros that I bought later.

87DJP2001

Still a useless & worthless opinion from someone who had them at one time. If you don't have them now who cares what you say and put a strain gage on this.

Dave K

Seat of the pants didn't feel much different to me, but I believe it's helped with squeaks and I know it's made the frame more rigid. I first noticed a difference when I was driving on the grass in a spot I earlier was able to drive without a problem... now the car was spinning and I looked and noticed that one of the rear wheels wasn't getting traction, since I used to be able to drive there I expect that before the body was flexing enough to keep both tires reasonably planted.

eagleknight97

LOL, take it a lil personally why dont ya

94Zpower

I too felt a difference from themoment I left the parking lot of the shop that installed mine, Now the car launches straight handles MUCH better and rattles so much less.

mitchntx

It appears it's "worthless" because he doesn't agree with you.

He had them on a car and then he bought another car without them and felt no difference between the 2.

Sounds more "objective" than any of the other "subjective" comments I've read here.

Launches better? same tires? same track? same weather conditions? same track conditions? better driver?

Handles better? same tires? same track? same weather conditions? same track conditions? better driver?

Seat of the pants is all subjective data. Objective data is cold hard facts with the variables removed.

JakeRobb

Unless he ragged on the first car, stepped out, and climbed into the new SFC-less car, and ragged on that, don't these questions all apply to his supposedly objective comments as well?

I don't have SFCs, but I want them. Nonetheless, I would be interested to see the results if anyone does the strain gauge thing.

mitchntx

If, If, If ...

That's why this whole thread is useless ... because it's based upon subjective data.

Personally, I have them. It makes jacking the car up easier.