Hey all,

I've been wanting to replace my wheel studs and add locking lugs for some time now, and I've been researching brands and trying to source some good strong black wheel studs and similar tapered lug nuts of the 12x1.5 variety, preferably 65mm in length.

Which has brought up a few questions for me:

* GM factory calls for 2 different length studs on a stock 94 Camaro 40 mm (front) and 34 mm (rear) which is almost too short for my Z06 wheels (in my signature). One question being if I run the same extended length studs front/rear they should stick out evenly right? Offset isn't going to affect this geometrically right?

* Also obviously adding longer studs to an already stressed part of the drivetrain is backwards logic, however can I expect any problems going from 34 mm to 65 mm considering I'm not using any kind of spacers at all?

* Does anyone sell a 20 piece kit of black wheel studs+nuts w/locks?

* I should note I would like to replace everything for less then $1,0000000 if possible..

Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions, and help.

 

Bump..

Did I post this in the wrong spot?

 

http://www.buywheelstoday.com/produc...%20(Black).bwt

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not really sure what your asking here... although I suppose I dont know much about lug nuts...

 

As I mentioned in my original post (see above), i'm looking for extended wheel studs, and locking lug nuts for my wheels.

 

Are you saying that the stock studs do not engage enough of the threads, in the hex portion of the lug nut? Never heard of that happening with the Corvette wheels.

You indicate the specs call for shorter studs in the rear than in the front. First time I've heard that, but I never compared the front and rear studs. The rears left with the 10-bolt when I sold it. The only reason I could think of for the studs not being the same overall length would be that the flange they mount in on the front hubs is thicker than the flange on the rear hubs. That wouldn't be unusual, because the rear axle assembly came out of the GM parts bin for the S10 trucks, and the rear hubs on the 93-96 cars do not match the front hubs.

If the reason for the different stud length is the hub thickness, then using studs that are all the same length will result in different projection, front and rear.

If your stock studs are close to the ends of the lug nuts, when you add 25mm (1") to the length of the stud, you are going to have problem finding a closed-end stud that will fit over the end of the lug. I have 3" thread in studs in the rear, and had to get some huge "duplex" (double length) lugs and drill the ends out, thread them, and let the studs stick out slightly. In the front, I have 67mm studs from Lingenfelter, but they have more than 1/2" of unthreaded length beyond the threads, and they stick out a mile. The studs were chosen based on my Weld Pro-Stars, so when I put my ZR1/GS street wheels on, its a problem.

Not sure why adding longer studs would alter the stress applied to the suspension. The stress is determined by the distance from the centerline of the tire to the axle support bearing. Using longer studs, without spacers, does not change that dimension.

Maybe I just don't understand what you are trying to accomplish?

 

Thanks for the reply,

Basically I have 2 questions I'm trying to answer, where can I find some quality extended wheel studs in black, and where can I find open ended locking lug nuts also in black..

As for the stud length, I haven't pulled everything apart yet and started measuring, when I called my local GM parts guy he said the F-bodies came with 2 different length studs which have different part numbers, which I thought was odd.

When I put on the wheels I noticed the front studs stuck out a little more and the lug nuts would thread down so the ends of the wheel studs were flush with the end of the lug nuts, where the rears would only go down to the end of the threads in the lug nuts.. So looking at the rears it almost looks like they're not on far enough visually.

 

OK.... are you aware that its a very common problem for Corvette and late model (97+) F-Body wheels NOT to fit correctly on the rear axle of the 93-96 F-Bodys? The rear hub is about 0.03" larger than the front hub. You usually have to lightly sand or grind the inner diameter of the Corvette wheel hub holes to allow them to fit loosely over the rear axle hubs.

Have you checked this? Sounds like they aren't going on correctly.

I know what you asked for, but I thought the information I offered would uncover the source of the problem. Apparently I wasn't successful.

 

Yeah I'm aware of the minor fitment issues in the rear, I have a set of Replica Z06 wheels (the 17x9.5 and 18x10.5 set) black w/machined lip. They went on perfectly, just some very minor issues with the tire on the passenger side contacting the bump stop bracket when I lift it on a lift (both wheels at full droop) but that's because my panhard bushing is worn out back there.

So any idea who makes black wheel studs? I think some real long studs sticking out of these wheels would look pretty sweet, not to mention give my nuts more to grab (no pun intended)..

 

Why black studs? Are you planning on running open lug nuts?

This is what you are going to end up with in the front (the threaded portion is 67mm):

http://www.injuneer.com/images/photo...s/DCP02502.jpg

The Lingenfelter studs are black (but I can't find them on their website anymore - try GM Performance Parts). You could cut some of the unthreaded length off, and they would only look 1/2 as bad.

Here's ARP 12mm x 1.5 2.50" under the head:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-100-7708/

Not black, but you can get stuff from The Eastwood Company to make them black.